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The conclusion to Christopher Nolan’s epic Batman trilogy has arrived and with it an urgent need to gather together the horroretc crew to discuss it. The arrival of Batman Begins introduced a dark and mature approach to the superhero film grounded in reality and hailed as a triumphant return of the caped crusader on film following the disasterous downward plummet of the 90′s series. It was followed by The Dark Knight, a crowning achievement and held by many as the peak of what the genre can aspire to, a complex and engaging crime thriller filled with excellent performances, which happened to feature characters dressed up in costumes.
And now, The Dark Knight Rises. The episode is comprised of two separate recordings discussing in detail our reactions to the film with distinct spoiler sections identified as follows:
1 – 38:23 through 56:40
2 – 1:39:06 through 2:02:48
So we changed up the pace a little this week with plenty of Batman talk, but each segment also features our take on The Amazing Spiderman and thoughts on the Man of Steel teaser. There’s a storm coming and we’re bringing it straight to your ears.
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People would have thrown a bitch fit if they did the “inception ending”. While I was watching it, I thought they were going to end the movie right where Ted said they should. I personally would have liked it, but “mainstream audiences” would have compared it to Inception and I think the trilogy does need absolute closure.
I have 2 nitpicks on this episode though.
Saying the Scarecrow is in the film is sort of a spoiler. “But he’s in the credits”. You mean the credits after the movie? Come on.
It’s funny how one of the biggest plot holes in the movie (Bruce Wayne making his way back to Gotham from the desert), can just be chocked up to “well he’s the Batman”. It personally doesn’t matter to me because I sort of agree with that, but how can you nitpick some comic book movie moments, yet other (rather big ones) just slide. It’s just seems funny to me.
Good episode anyways, guys.
Gordon,
Just to clarify, I think what we were saying about Bruce Wayne getting back to Gotham was that it isn’t a plot hole at all. Imagine a movie where a character is wearing a different outfit from one scene to the next, where the scenes are clearly meant to take place on different days. Audiences are expected to infer that some time has passed between scenes, and that the character changed their clothes. There isn’t a plothole becasue we didn’t see them change. Similarly, it’s not necessary to see how Bruce got back into Gotham because that wouldn’t really be a problem for him. The character has proven himself more than capable of traveling the world without any resources (batman begins) and has always been able to pull off tasks that would have been impossible for others.
Also, there was a point in the film that indicates others could get into Gotham undetected… but that would be a spoiler….
Hey Doug,
The way I see it, Bruce just walked across the ice back into Gotham. We see he has extensive training to do that in Batman Begins (when Ras knocks the ice under his feet). So I’d like to imagine that he learned how to do that. I would really have liked an explanation (theory) as to how he did it. Like above. I was really just playing devils advocate there. I just didn’t like how it can be explained away by just saying “he’s the Batman”. Because where do you draw the line with it? There’s times when you guys nitpick things that are obviously supposed to be just inferred. I was just having a little fun with you guys.
Also, I wouldn’t compare characters changing clothes to a character making his away from another country back into a supposedly locked down city. That’s reaching, in my opinion. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to question how he did it. Again, I agree it’s not a plot hole, but for the reasons I stated. To say “the Batman can do anything and we shouldn’t question it” and just move on, is sort of a slight at the audiences intelligence. Again, playing devils advocate here.
Thanks for responding to my comment. I really do love the podcast.